Deer Hunting

[mountainwlkr]

Hey new to the forum here and look to be the first one with a hunting forum question/comment. Has there been any decision as to when the hunting permits will be available along with the cost of the permits?? Would love to do some riding as well so that I can start some scouting before its to lateeee and have to go in blind.

Thanks

[STAKK]

Being on the trails committee, I don't want to try and answer to much to do with hunting and tell someone the wrong thing.....But the hunting commitee has decided to do "lease" for this deer season...... You will lease property for $1.00 per acre in various sizes ranging from about 800-1200 acres, to help with cost, you can have up to 10 people "go in with you" on your plot and hunt...... call the permit office at 423-663-4868 and they can give you specific details to your questions.......

[Anonymous]

I think that is the dumbest thing but I dont guess my opionion matters I dont have a lot of money to get on any committee. I guess the committee members will get the first choice on the land also.  I told mark about 3 months ago if this happened there would be a lot of tresspassing and illegal hunting they will find out it will not work.  Maybe someday I will be rich enough to buy my way throughout life.

[Anonymous]

I am not real good with map but $1x45000= 45000 which is the max you can make on leasing the land.  However if you sell permits $10 per person for county residents times 4500 residents plus $25 per non resident times 250 non residents =$51250. Now I know you may not sell that many permits the first year or two but you will not lease all of the land neither.  The riding on someone else's lease will cause conflict.  But who am I just a dumb ole country boy who dont know much. I know it is probaly two late but I think they should reconsider the process.  Someone please check my math.

[Anonymous]

I am not real good with map but $1x45000= 45000 which is the max you can make on leasing the land.  However if you sell permits $10 per person for county residents times 4500 residents plus $25 per non resident times 250 non residents =$51250. Now I know you may not sell that many permits the first year or two but you will not lease all of the land neither.  The riding on someone else's lease will cause conflict.  But who am I just a dumb ole country boy who dont know much. I know it is probaly two late but I think they should reconsider the process.  Someone please check my math.

I understand the problems associated with the leasing. I proposed a split with 50% lease and 50% permit. I was voted down because the majority did not want to pay for everyone else to hunt free. We tried permits during turkey season. There was very little participation.

Look at it this way, it is only $100.00 per year for a lease. Over the mountain at Gobey it is over $3.00 per acre. They have been successful
with leasing. It sold out in 3 weeks.

Also, I might add that the math is correct but the actual number of permits of 4500 is unrealistic. First of all 4500 people hunting and there would not be a deer / turkey left in the country. Second, 4500 people will not buy a permit.

Get 10 people to go together and lease. Again, I appreciate your concerns. $1.00 an acre is not getting rich when over the line they are getting over $3.00.

[yellab]

The opportunity that Brimestone is giving to folks is hands-down the smartest and most responsible thing I've seen a landholder do in years.  Finally someone has had the vision to realize that large chunks of land like this are a treasure that should not be wasted.  I have put in an application with my party of guys down here in Maryville, Tn, and there is a great chance that we will not be selected due to not living in Scott county, and i still think it's great.  I would rather not have the opportunity to hunt Brimestone at all than to buy a permit and let the land and hunting go to crap like all the others that have in the past.  I hunted Willomet in Hickman county for 13 years and saw a once game-filled beautiful piece of land turn into nothing more than a landfill with the occasional spike or 3pt being taken.  No one these days wants to take responsibility for the future, dumping junk on the sides of trails, and shooting small bucks that havent had a opportunity to reach any potential at all.  At least this way leasees can be held responsible for their tract.  Lease holders should maintain their tract as if it was their own, removing garbage and maintaining trails so that they will always have something to be proud of. And DON'T DON'T DON'T take young bucks!!!  If it were up to me, and it isn't, the state of Tennessee would not let a single buck be killed for 3 years and after that limit the kill to one a year with a minimum of 4pts on one side.  This is the only way our children will ever be able to hang a good TN deer on the wall. If you're happy with just selling permits to everybody then go to BSF at Honeycreek during the opening weekend of muzzle loader and try to find a place to hunt, and if you do, pay close attention to whats being checked out, it's not the quality of deer that I'm proud to show. Bottom line, it may take a few years to get things exactly right, but Brimestone has taken a very important first step into changing deer hunting in Tennessee.

Thank you, Chris Lane, Maryville, Tennessee

[Garrett]

I think that is the dumbest thing but I dont guess my opionion matters I dont have a lot of money to get on any committee. I guess the committee members will get the first choice on the land also.  I told mark about 3 months ago if this happened there would be a lot of tresspassing and illegal hunting they will find out it will not work.  Maybe someday I will be rich enough to buy my way throughout life.

Did you buy a permit during turkey season? I didn't; Our youngins were born four days before opening day and I just didn't have time to get out and hunt much, so I didn't fool with it. Apparently, no one else did either. I don't know how many permits that were sold for turkey hunting, but from the numbers that were posted on here midway through the season, I'd guess it to be fewer than 100.

Well, hindsight is always 20/20. I guess me and you should've both bought permits. I don't know what the folks who ultimately made this decision were thinking, but I do know that some of them, apparently, were talking of going with a permit system. Obviously, a lack of interest during the spring turkey season convinced them to do otherwise.

At $1/acre, it's kinda hard to complain, don't you think? They would've been well within their rights to charge $2 or $3 or even $4, given the going rates in this area of the state.

Your comments about the people who are on their committees are way off-base, in my opinion. I have no idea how they were selected, but I do know some of them and I don't think money had anything to do with it. :wink: If I remember correctly from a meeting I attended in March, it was said then that committee members wouldn't be given first chance on the leases. But even if they were, it's only fair, in my opinion. They've put in a lot of hours and given up a lot of evenings to help make this work. As for not having a say because you don't have money, there was a poll on this website for several months running regarding a lease vs. permit system for the property. Also, there have been many meetings of the folks in charge of this, and unless I'm badly mistaken, most of them were open to the public.

Unfortunately, I suspect you're right about the trespassing problems. But let's face it, the trespassing problems would be there whether they had gone with the permit system or the lease system. We're a fairly backwards bunch here in Scott County, and because we've been given free reign of that property for so long, we seem to think it is our birthright to access it.

[boog]

I dont know why anybody would want to buy a deer permit or lease in that area, to me it would be a waste of money. Everybody knows the only thing up there is bigfoot, i think he moved out of nobiz

[MLOVE]

I dont know why anybody would want to buy a deer permit or lease in that area, to me it would be a waste of money. Everybody knows the only thing up there is bigfoot, i think he moved out of nobiz

Boog,

Bigfoot came out of Stinking Creek not NoBiz.

There is alot of game on Brimstone.........Elk, Deer, Coyote, Fox, Turkey, Coon, etc. You oughta know having hunted up Mill Creek.

[Anonymous]

. As for not having a say because you don't have money, there was a poll on this website for several months running regarding a lease vs. permit system for the property. Also, there have been many meetings of the folks in charge of this, and unless I'm badly mistaken, most of them were open to the public.

I voted on the poll are all the meeting going to be during the week when people who work out of town cant attend. Or will there be some on the weekends.  Is there a min. on the amount you can lease. I dont know 10 people who I like to hunt with. Ha HA . But the min. is important.